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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by Lindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.  I live on a small residential estate.  The builder (Belway) imposed a restrictive covenant on these houses when built in 1994.  The deeds say the house must be for a single household only, not for business.  It has become apparent that my neighbour (we have a shared driveway) is in breach of the covenant - he rents several of the bedrooms to un-related people.  I am trying to sell my house.  My conveyancer has said Bellway are not allowed to remove the covenant.  I have to declare all of this on form TA6.  I am worried that I will not find a buyer with this in the background.  It all came to light last year when another neighbour tried to sell to a couple who wanted to rent out 2 rooms to students.  Their sale fell through due to the covenant.  I want to sell mine to a family but worried the problem re next door&#039;s breach will affect me.  Any help greatfully received. Lindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.  I live on a small residential estate.  The builder (Belway) imposed a restrictive covenant on these houses when built in 1994.  The deeds say the house must be for a single household only, not for business.  It has become apparent that my neighbour (we have a shared driveway) is in breach of the covenant &#8211; he rents several of the bedrooms to un-related people.  I am trying to sell my house.  My conveyancer has said Bellway are not allowed to remove the covenant.  I have to declare all of this on form TA6.  I am worried that I will not find a buyer with this in the background.  It all came to light last year when another neighbour tried to sell to a couple who wanted to rent out 2 rooms to students.  Their sale fell through due to the covenant.  I want to sell mine to a family but worried the problem re next door&#8217;s breach will affect me.  Any help greatfully received. Lindy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by Michael Magid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Magid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I bought a garden flat last year ,which was a lease and not a share of the freehold. I was informed by the solicitor acting for me there was a covenant on the property .

But took a view at the time that the flat was in such a bad condition and the previous tenant had been thrown out by the courts a year previously.

The covenant states that all the lease holders  have to agree to any work I do on my property.

Since I have bought the property he have bought the freehold and now are all joint freeholders.

There is a partially dug basement which I would like to extend and I would like to add a back extension, naturally everything I would do would be getting full planning permission from my local council.

But every time I email, or request a meeting everybody the leaseholders have a problem,

I just received an mail now stating they are refusing me permission to do any work.

I ave been doing my best to accommodate the first plans I offered to redo their communal staircase which is separate to mine, they refused that, which was the one leaseholders i
Fathers ideas,

Any ideas? Any advice at this time old be helpfully</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I bought a garden flat last year ,which was a lease and not a share of the freehold. I was informed by the solicitor acting for me there was a covenant on the property .</p>
<p>But took a view at the time that the flat was in such a bad condition and the previous tenant had been thrown out by the courts a year previously.</p>
<p>The covenant states that all the lease holders  have to agree to any work I do on my property.</p>
<p>Since I have bought the property he have bought the freehold and now are all joint freeholders.</p>
<p>There is a partially dug basement which I would like to extend and I would like to add a back extension, naturally everything I would do would be getting full planning permission from my local council.</p>
<p>But every time I email, or request a meeting everybody the leaseholders have a problem,</p>
<p>I just received an mail now stating they are refusing me permission to do any work.</p>
<p>I ave been doing my best to accommodate the first plans I offered to redo their communal staircase which is separate to mine, they refused that, which was the one leaseholders i<br />
Fathers ideas,</p>
<p>Any ideas? Any advice at this time old be helpfully</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 things a tenant should know about commercial leases by John Chesworth</title>
		<link>http://www.harrison-drury.com/property/5-things-a-tenant-should-know-about-commercial-leases/comment-page-4/#comment-2304</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve

Many thanks for your kind comments regarding the blog.

With regard to your question, the landlord does not have to exercise his option to terminate the lease by forfeiture.  He can choose to allow the lease to continue and claim for the rent due under the lease on an ongoing basis until the end of the lease term.

The best option is to find someone willing to take an assgnment of the lease which will make them primarily liable for the rent.  However, you will probably be asked to guarantee the rent if the new tenant defaulted, so not an absolute release of liability.

Alternatively, you could see whether the landlord will accept a one off payment to take a surrender of the lease, he could make a profit if he relets quickly.

Best of luck

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve</p>
<p>Many thanks for your kind comments regarding the blog.</p>
<p>With regard to your question, the landlord does not have to exercise his option to terminate the lease by forfeiture.  He can choose to allow the lease to continue and claim for the rent due under the lease on an ongoing basis until the end of the lease term.</p>
<p>The best option is to find someone willing to take an assgnment of the lease which will make them primarily liable for the rent.  However, you will probably be asked to guarantee the rent if the new tenant defaulted, so not an absolute release of liability.</p>
<p>Alternatively, you could see whether the landlord will accept a one off payment to take a surrender of the lease, he could make a profit if he relets quickly.</p>
<p>Best of luck</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 things a tenant should know about commercial leases by steven proctor</title>
		<link>http://www.harrison-drury.com/property/5-things-a-tenant-should-know-about-commercial-leases/comment-page-4/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>steven proctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi john,first i must say i find it an extremely informative,helpful and interesting blog to read-could you please help with what would happen if this scenario arose-
i can not pay my next qtly rental due on my commercial lease as the partnership business is insolvent-i breach my covenant in the lease,Q.does the landlord have to excercise the right to forfieture or can he choose to only pursue us for the rent via the courts and choose to not end the lease by reclaiming the property leaving us liable until the lease ends. regards steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi john,first i must say i find it an extremely informative,helpful and interesting blog to read-could you please help with what would happen if this scenario arose-<br />
i can not pay my next qtly rental due on my commercial lease as the partnership business is insolvent-i breach my covenant in the lease,Q.does the landlord have to excercise the right to forfieture or can he choose to only pursue us for the rent via the courts and choose to not end the lease by reclaiming the property leaving us liable until the lease ends. regards steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

We have a restrictive covernant on our property:  We live on a large estate built by a large building Company in 1982, this building Company still exists.

We obtained planning permission to build a 4 bed detached house in our garden, but the orginial builder of the estate wanted us to pay them 60K to give their permission.  This was out of our price range and they wouldn&#039;t negioate, so planning expired and we didn&#039;t build.

We now would like to build a large extension to our house as a single dwelling, as many owners have done on our estate, but fear for how much the bulders want, even though most others until sale haven&#039;t obtained permission.
Our Covernant says:

1. Nothing shall be done or suffered on the Premises which shall be or grow to be an annoyance to any person in whom the benefit of any of the covernants contained in this Transfer shall at any time be vested:
2. Unless the consent in writing of the Vendor shall be first obtained
i the exterior appearance of the buldings walls fenses and other erections now on the Premises shall not hereafter be altered.
ii no additional buildings walls fences or other erections shall hereafter be constructed or maintained on the Premises
iii no building on the premises shall be used for any purpose save that of a private residence for a single household and the garage for the garaging of a private motor vehicle.

Nothing shall be done on the Premises which will be an alteration to or departure from the overall landscaping scheme for the state as a whole.

We would like to proceed but obtain permission, but again it wouldn&#039;t be viable should they be asking for 1000&#039;s, any advice would be greatful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>We have a restrictive covernant on our property:  We live on a large estate built by a large building Company in 1982, this building Company still exists.</p>
<p>We obtained planning permission to build a 4 bed detached house in our garden, but the orginial builder of the estate wanted us to pay them 60K to give their permission.  This was out of our price range and they wouldn&#8217;t negioate, so planning expired and we didn&#8217;t build.</p>
<p>We now would like to build a large extension to our house as a single dwelling, as many owners have done on our estate, but fear for how much the bulders want, even though most others until sale haven&#8217;t obtained permission.<br />
Our Covernant says:</p>
<p>1. Nothing shall be done or suffered on the Premises which shall be or grow to be an annoyance to any person in whom the benefit of any of the covernants contained in this Transfer shall at any time be vested:<br />
2. Unless the consent in writing of the Vendor shall be first obtained<br />
i the exterior appearance of the buldings walls fenses and other erections now on the Premises shall not hereafter be altered.<br />
ii no additional buildings walls fences or other erections shall hereafter be constructed or maintained on the Premises<br />
iii no building on the premises shall be used for any purpose save that of a private residence for a single household and the garage for the garaging of a private motor vehicle.</p>
<p>Nothing shall be done on the Premises which will be an alteration to or departure from the overall landscaping scheme for the state as a whole.</p>
<p>We would like to proceed but obtain permission, but again it wouldn&#8217;t be viable should they be asking for 1000&#8242;s, any advice would be greatful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 things a tenant should know about commercial leases by John Chesworth</title>
		<link>http://www.harrison-drury.com/property/5-things-a-tenant-should-know-about-commercial-leases/comment-page-4/#comment-2297</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ross

I am sorry to hear of the difficulty with your business.

If you have not given personal guarantees for the tenant&#039;s covenants under the lease then the landlord will only be able to claim in the liquidation for any unpaid rent as an unsecured creditor of the company.  Subject to the proviso below, you and your wife will not be personally liable.  

Directors of companies, can however, become personally liable for company debt if they have been guilty of wrongful trading, which most often occurs when the directors have continued trading when the company is insolvent.  When it comes to winding up your company, I strongly recommend that you seek the advice of an experienced Insolvency Practioner, if you need a recommendation, we can assist.

In terms of a sale of the business, if you sold the shares in your company, which is the cleanest way from your perspective, then you will need to ensure that the buyer pays to you a sum equivalent to the deposit, as the deposit will remain with the landlord.    I suspect that if the sale of the business is by asset sale and your lease is assigned, the landlord will only agree to release your deposit if the new tenant replaces it.  

In short, you will only get your deposit back if your buyer agrees to pay a sum equivalent to it, in addition to what they pay for the business.  

I hope this helps, it would be a lot worse if you had given personal guarantees!

Regards

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ross</p>
<p>I am sorry to hear of the difficulty with your business.</p>
<p>If you have not given personal guarantees for the tenant&#8217;s covenants under the lease then the landlord will only be able to claim in the liquidation for any unpaid rent as an unsecured creditor of the company.  Subject to the proviso below, you and your wife will not be personally liable.  </p>
<p>Directors of companies, can however, become personally liable for company debt if they have been guilty of wrongful trading, which most often occurs when the directors have continued trading when the company is insolvent.  When it comes to winding up your company, I strongly recommend that you seek the advice of an experienced Insolvency Practioner, if you need a recommendation, we can assist.</p>
<p>In terms of a sale of the business, if you sold the shares in your company, which is the cleanest way from your perspective, then you will need to ensure that the buyer pays to you a sum equivalent to the deposit, as the deposit will remain with the landlord.    I suspect that if the sale of the business is by asset sale and your lease is assigned, the landlord will only agree to release your deposit if the new tenant replaces it.  </p>
<p>In short, you will only get your deposit back if your buyer agrees to pay a sum equivalent to it, in addition to what they pay for the business.  </p>
<p>I hope this helps, it would be a lot worse if you had given personal guarantees!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hope to obtain planning permission to build upon a plot of land that was purchased in the 1960’s by a previous owner of the house we now own. Originally, one of several building plots with planning permission to erect a detached dwelling, it was sold by the developer as garden land and a restrictive covenant placed upon it not to build. The developer, a limited company, subsequently ceased trading. A UK bank was another party to the covenant. We have approached this bank and they have confirmed that they have no interest in the land and do not object to the restrictive covenant being lifted. We are advised that no other party could enforce the covenant unless the benefit was assigned to some other, unknown, third party. We are aware that we can purchase indemnity insurance to cover this eventuality.

The dilemma we have is whether to proceed to planning permission or whether to remove the restrictive covenant first. Any planning application is likely to attract many objections based upon the restrictive covenant and we are concerned that this may result in rejection. Once an application has been rejected, we suspect it will be harder to re-apply.

We hoped that having the UK bank’s approval to remove the covenant would allow us to proceed with a Deed of Release but we are advised not (and that it is not necessary). The prospect of approaching the Lands Tribunal is not appealing, especially if it is not essential.

We your welcome your views on the way to proceed. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hope to obtain planning permission to build upon a plot of land that was purchased in the 1960’s by a previous owner of the house we now own. Originally, one of several building plots with planning permission to erect a detached dwelling, it was sold by the developer as garden land and a restrictive covenant placed upon it not to build. The developer, a limited company, subsequently ceased trading. A UK bank was another party to the covenant. We have approached this bank and they have confirmed that they have no interest in the land and do not object to the restrictive covenant being lifted. We are advised that no other party could enforce the covenant unless the benefit was assigned to some other, unknown, third party. We are aware that we can purchase indemnity insurance to cover this eventuality.</p>
<p>The dilemma we have is whether to proceed to planning permission or whether to remove the restrictive covenant first. Any planning application is likely to attract many objections based upon the restrictive covenant and we are concerned that this may result in rejection. Once an application has been rejected, we suspect it will be harder to re-apply.</p>
<p>We hoped that having the UK bank’s approval to remove the covenant would allow us to proceed with a Deed of Release but we are advised not (and that it is not necessary). The prospect of approaching the Lands Tribunal is not appealing, especially if it is not essential.</p>
<p>We your welcome your views on the way to proceed. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 things a tenant should know about commercial leases by Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello John,

Firstly, thanks for the very informative blog - most helpful.

Now for my question :0)

My wife and I have a new business and have been trading for about 6 months now, but it has become evident that we will most probably not be able to survive next winter (sales are extremely seasonal).

We are a ltd company and have a 12 year lease on the shop property with break clause at years 4 and 8.

If we liquidated the company in the autumn and ceased trading would we still be liable for rent payments?  We have not given any personal guarantees in regards to the rent.

Also, if we somehow managed to sell the business to someone else how would transferring the lease work and would we get our deposit back?

Many thanks,
Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>Firstly, thanks for the very informative blog &#8211; most helpful.</p>
<p>Now for my question :0)</p>
<p>My wife and I have a new business and have been trading for about 6 months now, but it has become evident that we will most probably not be able to survive next winter (sales are extremely seasonal).</p>
<p>We are a ltd company and have a 12 year lease on the shop property with break clause at years 4 and 8.</p>
<p>If we liquidated the company in the autumn and ceased trading would we still be liable for rent payments?  We have not given any personal guarantees in regards to the rent.</p>
<p>Also, if we somehow managed to sell the business to someone else how would transferring the lease work and would we get our deposit back?</p>
<p>Many thanks,<br />
Ross</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased a property for myself and son to use whilst at Uni. The house has a restrictive covenant on it preventing sale unless to an owner occupier.  I have requested the covenant be removed and had partial agreement from the council...however they have asked what price I am willing to pay for the removal....I have absolutely no idea. House prices in the street are all pretty similar..with or without covenant (mine is one of the few left with one)...where can I find a fair idea of price for the covenant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a property for myself and son to use whilst at Uni. The house has a restrictive covenant on it preventing sale unless to an owner occupier.  I have requested the covenant be removed and had partial agreement from the council&#8230;however they have asked what price I am willing to pay for the removal&#8230;.I have absolutely no idea. House prices in the street are all pretty similar..with or without covenant (mine is one of the few left with one)&#8230;where can I find a fair idea of price for the covenant?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conquering restrictive covenants by k jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>k jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently purchased a property which was originally a school building from a nationwide homebuilder as they were developing land on the site and the old listed building was sold to us. In the title there is a restrictive covenant which states the property to be used as a single dwelling house. Due to the size of the property some 12 rooms up and 12 rooms downstairs we would like to split the property into two seperate units. Can the covenant be lifted so we could do this. I have contacted our local council planning and they have no problems as it makes sense to reduce the size of the property. I have contacted the home builder and their legal dept advised a convenant cannot be removed. Is there any other options to have this removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently purchased a property which was originally a school building from a nationwide homebuilder as they were developing land on the site and the old listed building was sold to us. In the title there is a restrictive covenant which states the property to be used as a single dwelling house. Due to the size of the property some 12 rooms up and 12 rooms downstairs we would like to split the property into two seperate units. Can the covenant be lifted so we could do this. I have contacted our local council planning and they have no problems as it makes sense to reduce the size of the property. I have contacted the home builder and their legal dept advised a convenant cannot be removed. Is there any other options to have this removed.</p>
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